Eternity Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Pre-Release Thread [BETA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Jinn]

This has probably been addressed and I didn't see it, but have they said anything about better optimization for Pillars II? That it is a main concern and will be much improved?

 

[Prime Junta]

This has probably been addressed and I didn't see it, but have they said anything about better optimization for Pillars II? That it is a main concern and will be much improved?

They've talked about it during the Figstarter. Also demoed ridiculous numbers of FX on-screen not slowing things down. Loading times in particular are greatly improved, with no loads between main map and interiors.

 

[Quillon]

 

[Iznaliu]

Is there a way to turn this off?

Nope

Good; we don't need flexiplots ruining everything.

 

[santino27]

This has probably been addressed and I didn't see it, but have they said anything about better optimization for Pillars II? That it is a main concern and will be much improved?

They've talked about it during the Figstarter. Also demoed ridiculous numbers of FX on-screen not slowing things down. Loading times in particular are greatly improved, with no loads between main map and interiors.

Yes, as PJ said, during the campaign, Adam B. said multiple times that the performance (load times and on-screen performance) was a major focus as they felt that it was a significant problem (I believe Adam said 'unacceptable' although I don't remember if that was load times or some other performance issue) with POE.

 

[Lacrymas]

The load times are awful in PoE and they are very frequent, so it's good that they are at least doing away with loading screens for interiors in larger maps.

 

[FreeKaner]

Adam said it was unacceptable about loading screens, yes. He also said they tried and improved performance in a lot of areas and not just those.

 

[Jenkem]

the thing that worries me is that during the last livestream they mentioned how they had to remove some things because it was using too many resources, but only in relation to their lowest spec machine.. so they are cutting things that won't run on a lower spec machine, but they said nothing about enabling them on higher settings, they used the word "cut"

makes me think they are focusing on this to run on a potato and anything that it can't do they will just remove, so what is the point of having higher graphical settings if everything is tuned to the lowest of potato machines?

 

[Sentinel]

Did he say anything about cutting stuff? IIRC Josh said they're testing Pillars 2 on the same low spec machine they used for Pillars 1 and then said that low specs might end up a little higher, but nothing dramatic.

 

[Lacrymas]

He said they tested PoE on a very low-end PC, are testing 2 on the same one and even with the added stuff the requirements will only be just a bit higher.

 

[Jenkem]

Did he say anything about cutting stuff? IIRC Josh said they're testing Pillars 2 on the same low spec machine they used for Pillars 1 and then said that low specs might end up a little higher, but nothing dramatic.

Dimitri said he had worked on some things that were really good but Adam told him they were "too expensive"

so yes they are paring things down so it will run on a potato and there was no talk of having these things on a higher setting... they spoke like if it can't get running on the low-end PC, it just won't be in the game

 

[Sentinel]

"too expensive" doesn't mean "we're not adding it because it doesn't meet low specs".

 

[Fry]

Did he say anything about cutting stuff? IIRC Josh said they're testing Pillars 2 on the same low spec machine they used for Pillars 1 and then said that low specs might end up a little higher, but nothing dramatic.

Dimitri said he had worked on some things that were really good but Adam told him they were "too expensive"

"Some things" = Orlan fur FX.

I agree that it would be cool to be able to toggle such things off and on, but it sounded like it was an issue with the base model, so I'm guessing turning off parts of it wasn't worth the programming time if it was possible at all.

 

[Sannom]

I think they mentioned number of NPCs on screen and number of Godlike models as things that Adam vetoed because they were too expensive.

 

[Jenkem]

"too expensive" doesn't mean "we're not adding it because it doesn't meet low specs".

well 'too expensive' in that context means it was taking up too many resources in the build, no?
and the amount of things going on in the build is affected by the specs.
so I don't think it's too much of a leap to say that it was cut because it was too demanding (in addition to everything else in the build) for low spec PC, which wouldn't be an issue for those without potatoes.

 

[Jenkem]

"Some things" = Orlan fur FX.

I agree that it would be cool to be able to toggle such things off and on, but it sounded like it was an issue with the base model, so I'm guessing turning off parts of it wasn't worth the programming time if it was possible at all.

NVIDIA HAIRWORKS FOR ORLANS PLEASE

 

[Quillon]

Guess their telemetric data showed potatos all over the place.

 

[Sentinel]

"too expensive" doesn't mean "we're not adding it because it doesn't meet low specs".

well 'too expensive' in that context means it was taking up too many resources in the build, no?
and the amount of things going on in the build is affected by the specs.
so I don't think it's too much of a leap to say that it was cut because it was too demanding (in addition to everything else in the build) for low spec PC, which wouldn't be an issue for those without potatoes.

it can just be an engine related limitation that'd take extra time, effort, and money to work around, which Adam, as the producer, is in charge of making sure they don't spend on superfluous things.

Some things might tank performance in a way that hardware can't bruteforce unless you decide to spend significant time optimizing them. It's not just a matter of "amount of things going on is related solely to the specs of the target machines".

 

[AwesomeButton]

Realistically twirling your Orlan's moustache is an integral part of roleplaying.

 

[Prime Junta]

"too expensive" doesn't mean "we're not adding it because it doesn't meet low specs".

I'm pretty sure it meant exactly that.

 

[Sentinel]

"too expensive" doesn't mean "we're not adding it because it doesn't meet low specs".

I'm pretty sure it meant exactly that.

I'm pretty sure it didn't mean exactly that.

 

[Quillon]

"too expensive" doesn't mean "we're not adding it because it doesn't meet low specs".

I'm pretty sure it meant exactly that.

I'm pretty sure it didn't mean exactly that.

I'm pretty, sure.

 

[Sizzle]

 

[Iznaliu]

"Mumblemind" is uninspiring; "Yellmind" would be better.

 

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