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HITMAN, the new episodic Hitman - GOTY Edition

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Hitman tanked. Completely. Hence Squeenix getting rid of it. And yes, it is Squeenix's fault for forcing episodic and online bullshit on it.


Yup. I am very proud of this game. I think it is the best so far in my career,

We are still working on the Season 1 disk release and some are working on Season 2. I am looking forward to showing off all the new stuff coming..
 

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"Yeah man our business model is awesome, great results, I'm so proud"
*fast forward 5 months*
"Oh no we're being sold! How can this be? Our business model was awesome and we got great results!"
 

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Laugh, but I don't see how a Season 2 was greenlit in the first place if the game "completely tanked". I don't see how IO would still be talking about working on it instead of moving on to something entirely new. It has to be more complex than that.
 

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It's called rebuilding something. After the massive skepticism about (TM) following the shit-heap that was Absolution, and the positive reaction it (TM) got from the fans, in spite of lackluster sales it's still natural that you're gonna invest into expanding that project because obviously there is something there that your fans still enjoy, and you have the opportunity to grow it even more.

Obviously the financial results of (TM) weren't enough for Square-Enix, and I don't think that Hitman can ever reach Triple-A market performance without betraying its core audience, so it's natural that they told IO-I to fuck off.
 

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Absolution was such a POS.
What publishers will see, tho, is that it sold quite a bit more.
Then there is this:
"90% of the 13,087 user reviews for this game are positive" (Absolution)
"70% of the 12,425 user reviews for this game are positive" (Hitman 2016)
 

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What publishers will see, tho, is that it sold quite a bit more.
Then there is this:
"90% of the 13,087 user reviews for this game are positive" (Absolution)
"70% of the 12,425 user reviews for this game are positive" (Hitman 2016)

kill all gamers
 
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What publishers will see, tho, is that it sold quite a bit more.
Then there is this:
"90% of the 13,087 user reviews for this game are positive" (Absolution)
"70% of the 12,425 user reviews for this game are positive" (Hitman 2016)

kill all gamers

Most of the negative reviews criticize the always online model and the episodic system more than the actual game
 

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Hitman tanked. Completely. Hence Squeenix getting rid of it. And yes, it is Squeenix's fault for forcing episodic and online bullshit on it.


Yup. I am very proud of this game. I think it is the best so far in my career,

We are still working on the Season 1 disk release and some are working on Season 2. I am looking forward to showing off all the new stuff coming..

Ok. Cool. So why is Squeenix getting rid of IO ? PowerTorment, any insight ?
Here is why: The game did not make as much money as it was expected to. Sadly.

What publishers will see, tho, is that it sold quite a bit more.
Then there is this:
"90% of the 13,087 user reviews for this game are positive" (Absolution)
"70% of the 12,425 user reviews for this game are positive" (Hitman 2016)

I can pretty much guarantee that if the game had no always online, no denuovo, no technical issues and was released in full at once, the score would be above absolution.
 

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Preaching here but what the fuck were they thinking making it episodic, really think people want to buy a game in parts? Only works for story heavy games.

I still haven't played it due to that.
It was idiotic. I was ready to buy it and then when they said it would be episodic I just completely ignored everything about it until I knew it would be finished. I bet a lot of people did the same. And a bet a lot of those people forgot about it completely.
 

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I bought the first episode early and the game was disconnecting so often it's like I'm playing a mmo on launch day. Never bothered with it since then. Then recently I got the complete season at a heavy discount. Episodic+Denuvo+always online LMAO can't think of a worse combination
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't care about the always online thing? I didn't even know it was there. I would care more if this was 1998.
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't care about the always online thing? I didn't even know it was there. I would care more if this was 1998.
Personally no but I'm glad other people do because I think it has potential to be a problem, hasn't happened yet but I'd rather it just not be there.

Nah it was the episodes that put me off, as someone else said I was gonna wait for it to come out and buy the complete set but I lost interest and cba getting into it, mental the way they done it.
 

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It never bothered me but it's just unnecessary. The episodic thing actively irritated me even though I still love the game. Especially after Morocco + summer bonus episodes were released and I finallly had a good chunk of things to do besides just Paris and Italy.
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't care about the always online thing? I didn't even know it was there. I would care more if this was 1998.
Personally no but I'm glad other people do because I think it has potential to be a problem, hasn't happened yet but I'd rather it just not be there.

Nah it was the episodes that put me off, as someone else said I was gonna wait for it to come out and buy the complete set but I lost interest and cba getting into it, mental the way they done it.
Yea I just waited for it. I only bought it this xmas on sale.

I think they ran out of money or something and couldn't finish all the levels so made them 1 by 1 and used the early buyers money to finish it off. Sad times.
 

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I think Io would already be dead at this point if Hitman had "tanked hard in sales".
Nobody from SE made any comments about sales being disappointing or sub-par in any way.


Heh. And they are trying to sell IO because sales are so good that they throw money with shovels into fireplaces to warm their houses.

Owners: 647,282 ± 23,462

Absolution:
Owners: 2,996,520 ± 50,335
BloodMoney:
Owners: 1,430,881 ± 34,850

I think this comparison isn't very valid considering that older Hitman games had multiple 75-85% sales over the years, at some point Blood Money went for like 1$.
 

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When SE will shut down IO or sell it servers will go along with it as no one will want to keep servers for service that doesn't produce ROI.

So you won't even be able to play it in few months let alone wait for sale.
 

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