Instead he's a real fucking cultural figure of inspiration, and rightly so.
I don't know what sort of book on the Roman Empire Caesar picked up,
In 2246,[2] at the age of twenty, Sallow, fellow Follower Bill Calhoun, and seven others were sent to the east to study tribal dialects. He was instructed to meet with Joshua Graham, a Mormon missionary and tribal specialist from New Canaan. They embarked on a journey to the region known formerly as Arizona, as part of a nine-person expedition.[2] Disgusted by the primitive conditions in which the tribals lived, he looked down upon them as inferior and immoral. During this expedition, they discovered a cache of books about ancient Rome. While he knew some basic facts about ancient history, the books shed new light on some of the details. Reading first The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and then Julius Caesar's own Commentarii, and personal accounts of his military conquests; those books changed his life and were the starting point of his grand plan.
but the Legion bears no resemblance to the Roman Empire beyond superficial cosmetics. Roman conquests were successful largely due to skilled diplomacy and bribery of rival tribes, the term divide and conquer refers to allying smaller tribes in a region in order to bring down a tribe they perceive as a threat. The Romans were successful largely in integrating the majority of tribes peacefully, using the luxuries afforded by civilisation (wine, white bread, women that dont smell like shit), which tended to buy the loyalties of the larger, more affluent tribes of western europe, while those that resisted tended to be more idealistic and youthful. Ruthless brutality was largely reserved for rebellion and repression, not a means of conquest as it is completely anti-productive to massacre and destroy the fruits of conquest, and alienate those that witness it. Caesars actions seems more in line with the Mongols, who are wellknown for their brutality, however it can be argued the mongols were not attempting to create a unified, stable empire, but were barbarians in the traditional sense.
You're comparing here intelligence of black men to white men... Niggers would waste energy on shit like this but white men or yellow men would not.No one in his right mind would waste energy constructing a model of a cargo plane when they are at a primitive tribal level, and yet...
I was talking about NCR squashing him before things got out of hand. Before he could build an army that could threaten them. Surely they would have noticed a threat like him long before that happened, they have outposts all over the place and they're the largest force there is. This whole thing with Caesar having even remote chance of succeeding is stupid, as is the whole faction.Why? You could say the same about any other dictator throughout history. Caesar maintains power by force, and by making examples out of people. You know the story of the burned man? This was at Caesar's command. It is hard to squash someone who is that ruthless because people are afraid to stand up to them, else they might meet a similar fate.
Yeah, except supermutants and deathclaws might have bulletproof skin for all we know while humans are really fragile. And yes, it's a video game but Caesar's army isn't a parody, it's supposed to be serious, a real threat. Anyway, "it's a video game" is no argument when they can't be consistent within their own world. If it was machetes vs. machetes then sure, but we have an army with sticks and stones on one end and an army with modern weapons and they're somehow equal roughly and our involvement is enough to tip the scales. WTF? Compare it to to Fallout 1 for example, there only BOS had the chance against Master's army and they both were equally armed.You don't say that about Supermutants when they rush at you with those big supersledges; or ghoul reavers; or Deathclaws. In real life with a decent gun you would be able to take out any of those things, but guess what... this is a video game.
It's one of the reasons I've always been saying that F1 > F2. Besides these retarded ideas there was also the "vaults were experiments' thing that started with Fallout 2. That makes no sense at all and is just retarded (even though it makes for some interesting quests in FNV).Yes, you're right, Caesar's Legion wouldn't make any sense in the face of that, but this was never what the franchise was supposed to become. You have to think about them in terms of FO2 and Van Buren, then it makes more sense.
lolThat has always been a staple of the franchise ever since the very first game. Are you new to the series?
lolRemember when Fallout 1 had a guy literally LARPing Robin Hood complete with fake British accent and he had a good number of followers lol what a dumb game
Nope, it's because (((they))) profit from war and chaos and as a bonus they can train their army in real battle and not just some war games. Also, they can't just squash dictators unless they have a pretext, hence they create one from thin air and say they found chemical weapons (as was the case with Iraq and Syria).Do you know why America has not squashed many dictators that oppose them? Distance.
Your Sawyer fanboyism is clouding your judgement, you're comparing a thief who shares a bit of his profit with others with such retarded organizations like WGC or Caesar's Legion :facepalm:
Real Robin Hoods really did exist, e.g. Juraj Janosik and giving some of your profits to the others is good for business because you gain the support of others and they're less likely to snitch on you and might even protect the hand that feeds.
So yeah, I can imagine negros wasting their energy to broadcast rap or some other retarded things but not white men.
- Here you have these Elvis Presley over the top wannabe cool gangstas running a street gang, with the boss perfectly emulating / having the voice of the original by pure chance, yet at the same time no one of them really knows who the fuck they are actually worhipping as a god. He might have had something to do with music, hurrdurr. Really? And do you think that, even if there was a nuclear war, no one in the afterworld would remember a pop icon like Elvis Presley? Did they forget about Mozart, too? Why? That is retarded. And btw, disclaimer, I didn't yet progress further into that story arch because I couldn't stomach it. It might turn out that the gang leader is actually Elvis himself who "lived" (in some cryochamber in Area 51?), yet lost his memory or something. That would at least be an explanation for his voice, though the other point still stands.
- The whole Legion is equally retarded, if not more so. Oh, there was a nuclear war, so now let's just utterly LARP as Roman soldiers. And I'm actually Caesar himself, in case you haven't noticed. Really now? I mean, I can totally see a faction forming in a post apoc world / the wasteland that is run on strict authoritarian principles with a souvereign at the top, but WHY would you LARP so hard as to actually qualify as circus clowns? Also, it is unlikely for a faction to become as powerfull and still have spears and butcher knives as some of their primary weapons, or are they just carrying those for LARPing purposes, in case anyone didn't get the point the first time?
- The "Boomers". Holy shit. These guys are just mental. "Our society - and our name btw, in case you don't get the point [again] - is formed on things that go BOOM! We just like it when things go BOOM! Just for its own sake! Because BOOM is COOL!" Holy shit. I could get it if that were spoken in somewhat ironic terms, like "My philosophical outlook on life is summarized by blowing shit up, because that's the only thing that works in the Wasteland" or some such. But these people are totally serious with just loving shit that goes BOOM because explosions are cool. Wtf. Energy weapons? No thank you, we want EXPLOSHUNS!
- The BOS are almost the same sort of LARPers like the Legion, only that they are playing "Knights" instead of "Romans". Also, just recently I did the quest where you have to contact their scouts in different places, and all of them acted retarded when I found them. I don't remember exactly what the guy in one case said, but he gave me some sort of philosophical bullshit or poetic sounding one liner when I walked up to him with my companion. Like he was on some sort of trip. Wtf. If I were a scout sitting in an observation post and someone walked up to me I would tell him TO GET THE FUCK DOWN, lest my position be compromised, not deliver some bullshit one liner like I was in a religious cult.
- The whole story premise with the Vegas thing is retarded. So, while most of civilization is still in ruins, people would run the Vegas strip and actually do business there? Where do people get the money from to gamble away? It works in the real world to some degree because most societies have some sort of social security net and hardcore gamblers will rather throw money at the machines than eat. But in a post apoc wasteland people are gambling hardcore and live? Do they even work? This story is shit. It would be believable if it were small scale gambling in every other town's bar / saloon. But VEGAS? No.
Also, in a pretty much lawless society where the one with the most / best weapons is the law, it is most likely that all the casinos would be taken over by one entity before long, if different businesses would even spring up next to each other in the first place, which is unlikely.
This is just of the top of my head. In fact, almost every person you meet acts and talks completely retarded. I got FO 4 recently during a sale, and I have to say that while it is indeed a shooter rather than an RPG, the world and especially the people are MUCH more believable, which was a positive surprise to me after the retardation in Fallout 3 and, as I argue, New Vegas.
So yeah, I can imagine negros wasting their energy to broadcast rap or some other retarded things but not white men.
I was talking about NCR squashing him before things got out of hand. Before he could build an army that could threaten them. Surely they would have noticed a threat like him long before that happened, they have outposts all over the place and they're the largest force there is. This whole thing with Caesar having even remote chance of succeeding is stupid, as is the whole faction.
Yeah, except supermutants and deathclaws might have bulletproof skin for all we know while humans are really fragile. And yes, it's a video game but Caesar's army isn't a parody, it's supposed to be serious, a real threat. Anyway, "it's a video game" is no argument when they can't be consistent within their own world. If it was machetes vs. machetes then sure, but we have an army with sticks and stones on one end and an army with modern weapons and they're somehow equal roughly and our involvement is enough to tip the scales. WTF? Compare it to to Fallout 1 for example, there only BOS had the chance against Master's army and they both were equally armed.
Also the whole "lol Legion suckz cuz they have no guns" meme is stupid. The guys with sticks and machetes are low-level legionnaries, they're the low-level guys sent first as cannon fodder. The real mainstays of the Legion are Prime Legionaries and Veterans, and these guys use damn good guns alongside powerful melee weapons like ballistic fists and thermic lances.
Comparing a village to a city isn't fair,
In America, there's little difference between a village and a city,
In America, there's little difference between a village and a city
That and The Legion did try to zerg rush the NCR before the game began; during the first Battle of Hoover Dam, and they lost badly. The game pretty much acknowledges that the primary reason the Legion is doing so well is because the NCR utterly failed to capitalize on that success. They're now overextended, have forces largely consisting of conscripts and draftees (a few characters confirm that their professional and experienced troops are back in California, having been assigned to protect the ranches and properties of affluent merchants from raiders, highlighting the inefficient and corrupt bureaucracy of the NCR), and are lead by a highly incompetent general who's more interested in gaining personal glory than actually winning the war. Adding on top of this constant terror attacks, raids, and crippling of vital infrastructure, and it's pretty obvious that the Legion are primarily focusing on wearing down the morale of the NCR troops before routing them completely from the territory in one decisive battle.Also the whole "lol Legion suckz cuz they have no guns" meme is stupid. The guys with sticks and machetes are low-level legionnaries, they're the low-level guys sent first as cannon fodder. The real mainstays of the Legion are Prime Legionaries and Veterans, and these guys use damn good guns alongside powerful melee weapons like ballistic fists and thermic lances.
They are also very cunning. Look at the trap they had sprung at Nipton, or how they killed or ghoulified so many NCR troops by irradiating Camp Searchlight. They had also deeply infiltrated Camp McCarran with a mole and were getting detailed information about NCR troop movements and plans which they used to spring ambushes and take out Ranger Station Charlie, and they took time to boobytrap the corpses to try and kill even more NCR when they come to investigate what had happened. So yes, the Legion is a very crafty and cunning enemy. I imagine they do a lot of these attacks under the cover of night where the NCR guns would be less effective. There's the big heavily armed and armored tank Legion like Lanius, and there is also the lightweight, crafty, hit and run Legion led by Vulpes.
The Legion are not some melee idiots that zerg rush at NCR machine guns. Most of their attacks you never directly see in the game, but you do see the aftermaths of it (Nipton, Searchlight, etc.). If what happened at these places is a "joke", then the NCR certainly doesn't find it amusing.
Gotta put two years of Latin study to use somehow!
Seriously though, I chose Legion because no-one else made sense to me. You go to Crocker for a chat, and what do you see? A man hunched over a desk in a dusty suit in a drab office, who sends you off to chat to some local tribals. The NCR didn't even have the goddamn respect to send a notable envoy, just a soldier with a note and the instruction to meet some jackass at the back of the Strip. I just butchered an entire casino and walked out of the Lucky 38, who the fuck did they think I was? Some puppet? Another cog in their machine? They didn't want me, they wanted anyone with a pulse and a gun, who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
And Mr. House? A coward who hides behind his machines and calls himself a king. A coward who stakes his claim to the region not because he earned it or he's working for the people, but because he built a machine to avoid death two-hundred years ago and think that entitles him to be relevant today. He's a child playing with toys, lining them up in exactly the right order and throwing a fit when they fall down, and the Strip kisses his feet like there's no tomorrow.
Caesar respects the Courier. Caesar is impressed by the Courier. Caesar sends his best Frumentarii to the Courier, because the Courier is important enough to warrant particular treatment. Caesar doesn't deal with lackies or send the Courier to speak to a subordinate, he summons the Courier to his throne and praises their achievements, even those that go against his will. Caesar's faith in the Courier and his choice of ally is so great that he sends them into an unknown bunker beneath his main base without escort, trusting them to recognise the right path. Caesar may enforce a brutal and sadistic system, but at the time that was what made sense given the world I'd moved through. Prisoners openly harassing towns, lawlessness rife, caravans raided, and the NCR did jack-shit. They couldn't even kill some ants chilling on their fucking doorstep. The people in power don't get their hands dirty; Ranger Milo wouldn't let me help him at Nelson because I was too famous with the NCR and I didn't seem like the type to pitch in. Compare that attitude to Vulpes penetrating far behind enemy lines and burning a whole town to ash for everyone to see, and tell me whose system keeps the Mojave safe.
but no one wants to be mongol.