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Augur
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How is it that FO NV is getting such high praise and even is lauded by some on the Codex as the "real" Fallout 3 when its factions and characters are so utterly retarded? I mean, I get that the ArrPeeGee mechanics are somewhat there, there are actual factions, multiple paths etc. But anytime I play it, I can hardly bear with how retarded the story / setting and characters are. I mean, really? Just as a few examples, let's see:
- Here you have these Elvis Presley over the top wannabe cool gangstas running a street gang, with the boss perfectly emulating / having the voice of the original by pure chance, yet at the same time no one of them really knows who the fuck they are actually worhipping as a god. He might have had something to do with music, hurrdurr. Really? And do you think that, even if there was a nuclear war, no one in the afterworld would remember a pop icon like Elvis Presley? Did they forget about Mozart, too? Why? That is retarded. And btw, disclaimer, I didn't yet progress further into that story arch because I couldn't stomach it. It might turn out that the gang leader is actually Elvis himself who "lived" (in some cryochamber in Area 51?), yet lost his memory or something. That would at least be an explanation for his voice, though the other point still stands.
- The whole Legion is equally retarded, if not more so. Oh, there was a nuclear war, so now let's just utterly LARP as Roman soldiers. And I'm actually Caesar himself, in case you haven't noticed. Really now? I mean, I can totally see a faction forming in a post apoc world / the wasteland that is run on strict authoritarian principles with a souvereign at the top, but WHY would you LARP so hard as to actually qualify as circus clowns? Also, it is unlikely for a faction to become as powerfull and still have spears and butcher knives as some of their primary weapons, or are they just carrying those for LARPing purposes, in case anyone didn't get the point the first time?
- The "Boomers". Holy shit. These guys are just mental. "Our society - and our name btw, in case you don't get the point [again] - is formed on things that go BOOM! We just like it when things go BOOM! Just for its own sake! Because BOOM is COOL!" Holy shit. I could get it if that were spoken in somewhat ironic terms, like "My philosophical outlook on life is summarized by blowing shit up, because that's the only thing that works in the Wasteland" or some such. But these people are totally serious with just loving shit that goes BOOM because explosions are cool. Wtf. Energy weapons? No thank you, we want EXPLOSHUNS!
- The BOS are almost the same sort of LARPers like the Legion, only that they are playing "Knights" instead of "Romans". Also, just recently I did the quest where you have to contact their scouts in different places, and all of them acted retarded when I found them. I don't remember exactly what the guy in one case said, but he gave me some sort of philosophical bullshit or poetic sounding one liner when I walked up to him with my companion. Like he was on some sort of trip. Wtf. If I were a scout sitting in an observation post and someone walked up to me I would tell him TO GET THE FUCK DOWN, lest my position be compromised, not deliver some bullshit one liner like I was in a religious cult.
- The whole story premise with the Vegas thing is retarded. So, while most of civilization is still in ruins, people would run the Vegas strip and actually do business there? Where do people get the money from to gamble away? It works in the real world to some degree because most societies have some sort of social security net and hardcore gamblers will rather throw money at the machines than eat. But in a post apoc wasteland people are gambling hardcore and live? Do they even work? This story is shit. It would be believable if it were small scale gambling in every other town's bar / saloon. But VEGAS? No.
Also, in a pretty much lawless society where the one with the most / best weapons is the law, it is most likely that all the casinos would be taken over by one entity before long, if different businesses would even spring up next to each other in the first place, which is unlikely.
This is just of the top of my head. In fact, almost every person you meet acts and talks completely retarded. I got FO 4 recently during a sale, and I have to say that while it is indeed a shooter rather than an RPG, the world and especially the people are MUCH more believable, which was a positive surprise to me after the retardation in Fallout 3 and, as I argue, New Vegas.
TL;DR:
Why is everyone so retarded in New Vegas and cannot just act like a normal person? It's Fallout 3 tier for me, maybe even worse, because almost all the factions are LARPing hardcore.
- Here you have these Elvis Presley over the top wannabe cool gangstas running a street gang, with the boss perfectly emulating / having the voice of the original by pure chance, yet at the same time no one of them really knows who the fuck they are actually worhipping as a god. He might have had something to do with music, hurrdurr. Really? And do you think that, even if there was a nuclear war, no one in the afterworld would remember a pop icon like Elvis Presley? Did they forget about Mozart, too? Why? That is retarded. And btw, disclaimer, I didn't yet progress further into that story arch because I couldn't stomach it. It might turn out that the gang leader is actually Elvis himself who "lived" (in some cryochamber in Area 51?), yet lost his memory or something. That would at least be an explanation for his voice, though the other point still stands.
- The whole Legion is equally retarded, if not more so. Oh, there was a nuclear war, so now let's just utterly LARP as Roman soldiers. And I'm actually Caesar himself, in case you haven't noticed. Really now? I mean, I can totally see a faction forming in a post apoc world / the wasteland that is run on strict authoritarian principles with a souvereign at the top, but WHY would you LARP so hard as to actually qualify as circus clowns? Also, it is unlikely for a faction to become as powerfull and still have spears and butcher knives as some of their primary weapons, or are they just carrying those for LARPing purposes, in case anyone didn't get the point the first time?
- The "Boomers". Holy shit. These guys are just mental. "Our society - and our name btw, in case you don't get the point [again] - is formed on things that go BOOM! We just like it when things go BOOM! Just for its own sake! Because BOOM is COOL!" Holy shit. I could get it if that were spoken in somewhat ironic terms, like "My philosophical outlook on life is summarized by blowing shit up, because that's the only thing that works in the Wasteland" or some such. But these people are totally serious with just loving shit that goes BOOM because explosions are cool. Wtf. Energy weapons? No thank you, we want EXPLOSHUNS!
- The BOS are almost the same sort of LARPers like the Legion, only that they are playing "Knights" instead of "Romans". Also, just recently I did the quest where you have to contact their scouts in different places, and all of them acted retarded when I found them. I don't remember exactly what the guy in one case said, but he gave me some sort of philosophical bullshit or poetic sounding one liner when I walked up to him with my companion. Like he was on some sort of trip. Wtf. If I were a scout sitting in an observation post and someone walked up to me I would tell him TO GET THE FUCK DOWN, lest my position be compromised, not deliver some bullshit one liner like I was in a religious cult.
- The whole story premise with the Vegas thing is retarded. So, while most of civilization is still in ruins, people would run the Vegas strip and actually do business there? Where do people get the money from to gamble away? It works in the real world to some degree because most societies have some sort of social security net and hardcore gamblers will rather throw money at the machines than eat. But in a post apoc wasteland people are gambling hardcore and live? Do they even work? This story is shit. It would be believable if it were small scale gambling in every other town's bar / saloon. But VEGAS? No.
Also, in a pretty much lawless society where the one with the most / best weapons is the law, it is most likely that all the casinos would be taken over by one entity before long, if different businesses would even spring up next to each other in the first place, which is unlikely.
This is just of the top of my head. In fact, almost every person you meet acts and talks completely retarded. I got FO 4 recently during a sale, and I have to say that while it is indeed a shooter rather than an RPG, the world and especially the people are MUCH more believable, which was a positive surprise to me after the retardation in Fallout 3 and, as I argue, New Vegas.
TL;DR:
Why is everyone so retarded in New Vegas and cannot just act like a normal person? It's Fallout 3 tier for me, maybe even worse, because almost all the factions are LARPing hardcore.
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