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Mass Effect: Andromeda Pre-Release Thread

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There seems to be a lot of infighting over the Lead Animator here on the Codex. All I will say is why the fuck was a amateur animator made the the lead of the facial animations of a AAA game? If she was just one of the animators out of many then I wouldn't care, to blame her you should blame the other animators as well, but she was made a lead of a AAA game while having no prior experience in the industry. Just what the hell Bioware/EA? Did you spend the chunk of your production money on coke and hookers instead of hiring veteran animators for your AAA game that is suppose to restart a franchise?

The animation is bad, but then the voice acting is awful and the script is dogshit, utter dogshit.

So Scrooge was right in her own misguided way that the animator was not to blame, its the writers fault for giving them an awful script and tragic voice acting to work with.
 

J1M

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Not sure how lifting the review embargo early is going to help sales. Seems like a 'surprise' launch a few days early would generate more positive buzz.
 

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The very existence of "review embargoes" continues to amaze me. The concept didn't exist in the 1990s or the early 2000s. It's a completely obvious ploy to keep potentially bad reviews hidden until developers have had the opportunity to con unwise people out of their money.

While I don't mind seeing unwise people get conned in general, I'm even less inclined to watch shit-tier developers profit from their shovelware.
 
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The very existence of "review embargoes" continues to amaze me. The concept didn't exist in the 1990s or the early 2000s. It's a completely obvious ploy to keep potentially bad reviews hidden until developers have had the opportunity to con unwise people out of their money.

While I don't mind seeing unwise people get conned in general, I'm even less inclined to watch shit-tier developers profit from their shovelware.

Under normal circumstances they make sense. Otherwise reviewers constantly try to 1-up each other and get the first review in for the automatic viewership spike. In 2017 if you didn't have an embargo you'd give them the game on a Monday at 12:00 and they'd have the review out by 12:30.
 

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Yeah review embargoes have been around since the 1930s theatre performance. You post your review of the show after opening night not rehearsals
 

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The very existence of "review embargoes" continues to amaze me. The concept didn't exist in the 1990s or the early 2000s. It's a completely obvious ploy to keep potentially bad reviews hidden until developers have had the opportunity to con unwise people out of their money.

While I don't mind seeing unwise people get conned in general, I'm even less inclined to watch shit-tier developers profit from their shovelware.

Under normal circumstances they make sense. Otherwise reviewers constantly try to 1-up each other and get the first review in for the automatic viewership spike. In 2017 if you didn't have an embargo you'd give them the game on a Monday at 12:00 and they'd have the review out by 12:30.

I've heard this excuse many, many times before.

Although it sounds reasonable enough, it's bunk. For one thing, the embargoes by and large end only after the game has been released, yet in most cases v1.0 could quite easily be made available to reviewers two weeks or more in advance. If the embargo is intended to prevent poor, rushed reviews, it could just as easily end 4-7 days before release. What's important (to prevent rushed reviews) is that it's the same for all reviewers.

Furthermore, this isn't happening in a vacuum. The 10/10 shrimp dinner and cocktails incestual shill relationship between developers and reviewers has been a known quantity for years now. Pre-ordering six months in advance and pre-order exclusives exist for the same reason release-day review embargoes exist, and that reason is to secure as much money as possible before people find out whether or not a game's shit.
 

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Consumers have great contempt for paper launches. They want to be able to buy products immediately after the reviews are out. It doesn't make much sense to get consumers hot and horny with game reviews and then make them wait a week to buy the game, just to make sure that they read all of the reviews very thoroughly. That just pisses them off.
 
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Blaine

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Consumers have great contempt for paper launches. They want to be able to buy products immediately after the reviews are out. It doesn't make much sense to get consumers hot and horny with game reviews and then make them wait a week to buy the game, just to make sure that they read all of the reviews very thoroughly. That just pisses them off.

That's funny, because it worked just fine in the 1990s.
 

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pdp really going all in shitlording


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THE NARRATIVE BEGINS

Scumbags Harass Woman For Working On Mass Effect: Andromeda's Animations
Internet cretins engaged in a harassment campaign against a woman who worked for Electronic Arts this weekend, flooding her social media and various internet profiles with vitriolic, often misogynistic messages. Her sin, it appears, was working on animations for the game Mass Effect: Andromeda.


Allie Rose-Marie Leost, who worked for EA’s motion-capture labs in Vancouver, saw vicious harassment on Twitter and other websites today, most often from people who blamed her for Andromeda’s awkward facial animations. The harassment appears to have been primarily triggered by a vile blog post at Ralph Retort, a right-wing, GamerGate-tied website, that claimed Leost was the lead facial animator on Andromeda. That website also accused her of performing sexual acts to get her job at EA.

Here’s a small sample of the hundreds of messages Leost faced today:

As often happens with these internet witch-hunts, the harassment campaign against Leost was based on false information. BioWare today released a statement clarifying that she was not, in fact, a lead animator on Mass Effect: Andromeda. (There has been some confusion over whether Leost’s social media posts indicated that she was a lead, but given that she worked at EA Labs and not at the Andromeda team’s offices in Montreal, it’s clear that’s not the case.)


BioWare also condemned the abuse with a statement this afternoon:

Leost did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

Somehow, the attacks seem completely predictable despite how terrible they are. In the age of President Trump and GamerGate, it all feels straight out of some especially insecure and desperate playbook. Starting with the transformation of a game’s sometimes silly character animations into a conspiracy, and then later a scandal in which the data points waver between incomplete and meaningless, the cycle isn’t new by this point.

PRESIDENT TRUMP
GAMERGATE

DESPERATE
DESPERATE
 

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THE NARRATIVE BEGINS

Scumbags Harass Woman For Working On Mass Effect: Andromeda's Animations
Internet cretins engaged in a harassment campaign against a woman who worked for Electronic Arts this weekend, flooding her social media and various internet profiles with vitriolic, often misogynistic messages. Her sin, it appears, was working on animations for the game Mass Effect: Andromeda.


Allie Rose-Marie Leost, who worked for EA’s motion-capture labs in Vancouver, saw vicious harassment on Twitter and other websites today, most often from people who blamed her for Andromeda’s awkward facial animations. The harassment appears to have been primarily triggered by a vile blog post at Ralph Retort, a right-wing, GamerGate-tied website, that claimed Leost was the lead facial animator on Andromeda. That website also accused her of performing sexual acts to get her job at EA.

Here’s a small sample of the hundreds of messages Leost faced today:

As often happens with these internet witch-hunts, the harassment campaign against Leost was based on false information. BioWare today released a statement clarifying that she was not, in fact, a lead animator on Mass Effect: Andromeda. (There has been some confusion over whether Leost’s social media posts indicated that she was a lead, but given that she worked at EA Labs and not at the Andromeda team’s offices in Montreal, it’s clear that’s not the case.)


BioWare also condemned the abuse with a statement this afternoon:

Leost did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

Somehow, the attacks seem completely predictable despite how terrible they are. In the age of President Trump and GamerGate, it all feels straight out of some especially insecure and desperate playbook. Starting with the transformation of a game’s sometimes silly character animations into a conspiracy, and then later a scandal in which the data points waver between incomplete and meaningless, the cycle isn’t new by this point.

PRESIDENT TRUMP
GAMERGATE

DESPERATE
DESPERATE
It begins!!!!
:flamesaw:
 

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Tell me, give me refrences, I run that game on near highest ratings on a ten year old q9300 processor and I only had lag when I had 4gb of ram and a 470 and tried to go back to windows. Now I upgraded to 8gb of ram and a 1050 but kept the trusty q9300 the game runs out as smooth as Burma Shave,

The only bug I have is Geralt standing on the table after he's talked to the book dealer in Novigrad, but you can still walk off the table and carry on.

I am missing the point of talking about optimalization, many people are actually saying Andromeda is good optimized. We are talking about bugs here.
Maybe you missed bugs, were lucky. But I remember how all reviews and people on witcher 3 release were bashing it for how broken it was (was, not as it is now), I've seen a lot of videos presenting them.
I'd even risk a statement that it was no better than andromeda.
You want references? There are many videos about it on internet, youtube. Like this, for instance:


You can all have fun from bashing Andromeda for its bugs, but saying that this something uncommon is straight lie.
Game hasn't been released yet, but in view of all they showed us in 10h I can say that Andromeda is typical AAA title this days in topic of bugs and glitches.
 
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If Kotaku are concerned about "incomplete data sets", shouldn't they confirm whether that vague Bioware statement actually refers to her and not to Manveer Heir? Wouldn't want to jump to conclusions based on flimsy evidence.
 

Gepeu

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Black supremacy is indeed far left. As for being against supremacy--ludicrous. They believe what they believe to be superior--and consequently those who believe those things to be superior. That the belief system is technically available to all people doesn't change the basic distinctions between true/false, good/bad, better/worse.
To be fair, the most influencial and supremacist black movement nowadays is a conglomerate of various black only socialist and communist groups: http://www.uhurumovement.org http://apspuhuru.org The modern black supremacy ideology is fundamentally linked to the postcolonialism theories that emerge from generally extreme left thinkers that were meddling with various "post-x" theories that are generally super gramscist at the base. It was extremely easy to replace classes with races and/or identify certain classes with certain races exclusively, and they all more or less reference old school marxist macro-economics.

Wait, wasn't this thread about Mass Effect: Andromeda? Are there black supremacists located in the new galaxy player has to ally with or fight against? I know I would play it to fight them deplorable whytys, which are colonizing new galaxies and sex enslaving native life forms. The game would be the ultimate postcolonialism metaphor.

UHURU ya all
 

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I'm going to call professional obligations on that one. These days some companies do care about what you do on social media.
"These days some companies do care about what you do on social media."
Then why are they following a racist? :M

Do you honestly think a company is going to say, "Yeah, these are pros who have been in the industry for decades and are minor celebrities within it, but they aren't following this particular wingnut who talks about killing white people, so no go."?
 

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