Eternity Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Pre-Release Thread [BETA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Salvo]

Did they mention if the year are going to change how sneak attack works in Deadfire? Are they going to make it scale with level (DnD style)? Because I don't see why why you wouldn't take 1 level of rogue with each build for that massive 50% damage bump.

As far as I know Sneak Attack will scale with class level.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I'm pretty sure they won't be adding ammo. I've seen people ask about it multiple times, and by people I don't mean just myself, but I think Josh finally spelled it out in a stream.

From what I think I know about Josh's thinking, I think we may end up with a sneak attack that advances with something like + x1.5 per 30 power levels. So a level 10 Thief would have a sneak attack multiplier of 1.5. This would give us some insane fractions when you are a 5/4 fighter/thief and you have 19/15 power source points your damage would look like base damage + 0.75 * base damage, and god forbid your thief power source points are some uneven number, the calculations would again be clumsy to do mentally.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Guys can i redeem my PoE2 backer Tyranny 50% off coupon for the GoG version?

 

[Sizzle]

Guys can i redeem my PoE2 backer Tyranny 50% off coupon for the GoG version?

I'm pretty sure they said that coupon's valid only for the Steam version.

 

[Lacrymas]

As far as I know Sneak Attack will scale with class level.

...just like in D&D then? In 3E you got a flat 1D6 damage increase and not a multiplier though, in AD&D you had a multiplier.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Guys can i redeem my PoE2 backer Tyranny 50% off coupon for the GoG version?

I'm pretty sure they said that coupon's valid only for the Steam version.

Oy vey.

Thanks

 

[Quillon]

bob
FIG

Slacker Backer Pledge total on Fig is up to $64,957 (as of now) - this does not include anything from Obsidian's PayPal backer portal (last reported to be $42,261). I'll continue doing daily updates here until we have a live counter up somewhere

Mar 6, 2017 | 08:16 PM

MikeyDowling
DEVELOPER

Our Backer Portal is at $51,919 as fo this morning.
Thanks for the update, Bob!

Mar 6, 2017 | 08:53 PM

+ Fig campaign = $4.525K

$5M doesn't look likely, I guess it will hit $4.75M after Obs' portal gets all the backer info & people upgrade their pledges and that'll be it.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm up for fighting giant sea monsters, so yay.

 

[Projas]

Did they say how long will it be running?

 

[Quillon]

60 days.

 

[Chris Avelltwo]

4) Not only is Pillars Of Eternity not soulless, the game in fact deals with souls extensively as both a plot element and thematic motif.

Pretty sure that poster wasn't being literal; though, that being said, the "souls" in POE are more like fodder for ancient machines that can be manipulated and destroyed rather than traditional immortal souls. The "gods" in this world are fake constructs that feed off these "souls". So the game clearly caters towards an atheistic mindset. Of course, not all Atheists are SJWs, but certainly almost all SJWs are Atheists. And yeah, making it clear that the "gods" in this world are fake constructs does indeed make the game feel more "soulless" -- just like in the Star Wars prequels when it was announced the "force" was nothing more than some microbes in your bloodstream. People don't want to hear shit like that; it is a buzzkill and it jumps the shark. Let there be some mysteries so that we may wonder; not have our wonderment doused by a wall of text thrown in our face like a bucket of ice water.

If your "soul" can be captured/manipulated/destroyed by a machine built by mortal hands, then it is probably not truly a soul then.

 

[Lacrymas]

If your "soul" can be captured/manipulated/destroyed by a machine built by mortal hands, then it is probably not truly a soul then.

It depends on what you mean, souls in PoE are parasitic/symbiotic entities which also act as power sources. It's kind of a variation of Catharism. So, yeah, they aren't the Christian souls.

 

[Sizzle]

If your "soul" can be captured/manipulated/destroyed by a machine built by mortal hands, then it is probably not truly a soul then.

It depends on what you mean, souls in PoE are parasitic/symbiotic entities which also act as power sources. It's kind of a blend/variation of Catharism and Baha'i faiths. So, yeah, they aren't the Christian souls.

It's not like soul harvesting/manipulation isn't a time-honored fantasy (game) staple :D

 

[Lacrymas]

It's not like soul harvesting/manipulation isn't a time-honored fantasy (game) staple :D

Yeah, of course, but I was addressing his "not really a soul" point. ;d

 

[Salvo]

As far as I know Sneak Attack will scale with class level.

...just like in D&D then? In 3E you got a flat 1D6 damage increase and not a multiplier though, in AD&D you had a multiplier.

As far as I recall Josh talked about an extra damage percentage, just like in PoE. Whether or not it will scale up by a flat 5% per level (placeholder number) or exponentially is still up to be seen.


Unfortunately I don't think we'll receive more info while the PayPal campaign is still going.

 

[Infinitron]

Hmmm.

 

[santino27]

4) Not only is Pillars Of Eternity not soulless, the game in fact deals with souls extensively as both a plot element and thematic motif.

Pretty sure that poster wasn't being literal; though, that being said, the "souls" in POE are more like fodder for ancient machines that can be manipulated and destroyed rather than traditional immortal souls. The "gods" in this world are fake constructs that feed off these "souls". So the game clearly caters towards an atheistic mindset. Of course, not all Atheists are SJWs, but certainly almost all SJWs are Atheists. And yeah, making it clear that the "gods" in this world are fake constructs does indeed make the game feel more "soulless" -- just like in the Star Wars prequels when it was announced the "force" was nothing more than some microbes in your bloodstream. People don't want to hear shit like that; it is a buzzkill and it jumps the shark. Let there be some mysteries so that we may wonder; not have our wonderment doused by a wall of text thrown in our face like a bucket of ice water.

If your "soul" can be captured/manipulated/destroyed by a machine built by mortal hands, then it is probably not truly a soul then.

It's not what Christians define as a soul, maybe... but why should that be the 'one true' definition to anyone but a believer of that religion?

 

[Mastermind]

Whatever the definition of the soul, revealing the gods were artificial creations in the first game pretty much tanked the entire gameworld. That's the sort of shit you find out with your level 90 demigod in Pillars of Eternity X, not as a shitty mortal who went zero to hero in a few months in the first game in the series.

 

[fobia]

With the Lvl 90 Demigod you probably would've killed them and absorbed their power.

You only find out about it.

The demigod part will be Deadfire.
But seriously, I hope not...

 

[Salvo]

With the Lvl 90 Demigod you probably would've killed them and absorbed their power.

You only find out about it.

The demigod part will be Deadfire.
But seriously, I hope not...

I too hope that the power level of the Watcher won't increase massively compared to the previous game. As much as you were powerful in PoE, you could only tap into people's soul and/or slightly manipulate them. (the only exception being towards the very end with a certain character)

Spoiler

Ondra called down a moon on Abydon as we learn in the White March, and having the Watcher do anything remotely similar wouldn't be that great.

 

[Irenaeus]

The "gods" in this world are fake constructs that feed off these "souls".

This is actually false and unproven. It was just the opinion of a deranged atheist heretic that you get to exorcise in Act 4 of PoE.

 

[Iznaliu]

This is actually false and unproven. It was just the opinion of a deranged atheist heretic that you get to exorcise in Act 4 of PoE.

Thaos outright admits it when you confront him about it.

 

[Irenaeus]

This is actually false and unproven. It was just the opinion of a deranged atheist heretic that you get to exorcise in Act 4 of PoE.

Thaos outright admits it when you confront him about it.

Fake News

 

[Lacrymas]

I suppose they can retcon it and say that Thaos just THOUGHT they were fake constructs and Iovarra was a deranged manifestation of his mind. Done deal. It's not like Thaos wasn't a debilitated psycho.

 

[Salvo]

Speaking of Thaos, I was wondering...

What's the Kodex Konsensus on Animancy?