Battle Brothers Pre-Release Thread

[Iluvcheezcake]

I have intentionally restrained myself from playing this until it is finished and released, all of my info about it is from this forum.

Underrail and this are my two most anticipated games for 2017

Here's to hoping for a January release

 

[ERYFKRAD]

You know Underrail has been released, right?

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Meant the Expeditions expansion

Also forgot to mention D:OS 2 and Expeditions: Vikings :O

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Righto old boy. Carry on.

 

[anus_pounder]

Look at this faggot, believing any of this vaporware shit will ever be released.

Vaporware until proven released.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Look at this faggot, believing any of this vaporware shit will ever be released.

Vaporware until proven released.

All that glitters is not gold,
All that vapours is not Grimoire.

 

[anvi]

I tried Underrail. Not impressed. To be fair I only gave it 20 minutes, but the problem is that it was 10 minutes of reading shit and then 10 minutes of time sink, go to this room and talk to Bob, then go to this room and talk to Fred, then come to this other room and talk to me again. And then maybe after all this running around you can finally get to shoot something. I never did get that far. If a game resorts to time sinks in the first 10 minutes it isn't worth my time.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

That was to show you around the complex and learn who you can trade what with. Sheesh.

 

[Reinhardt]

That was to show you around the complex and learn who you can trade what with. Sheesh.

But in Skyrim you almost lost your head in first 10 minutes. Also it has dragon and shiet.

 

[anvi]

That was to show you around the complex and learn who you can trade what with. Sheesh.

Meh. I don't even want either of those things anyway. I rage quit every RPG when I reach a town. Towns are the worst part of RPG's.

 

[OSK]

Is it worthwhile to hire high-end recruits? Do they just offer a head start over cheaper ones (like the better equipment)? Or will they just be straight up better at max level?

 

[Beowulf]

Both, actually.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Is the game coming out on GoG?

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Maybe eventually, but not initially. Nothing concrete that I am aware of.

 

[vonAchdorf]

They want to get it on GOG after it's out of EA, iirc.

 

[Agesilaus]

I tried Underrail. Not impressed. To be fair I only gave it 20 minutes, but the problem is that it was 10 minutes of reading shit and then 10 minutes of time sink, go to this room and talk to Bob, then go to this room and talk to Fred, then come to this other room and talk to me again. And then maybe after all this running around you can finally get to shoot something. I never did get that far. If a game resorts to time sinks in the first 10 minutes it isn't worth my time.

Objectively correct, for the most part. Underrail was over-rated rubbish, it deserve to be ranked alongside other scrub-tier titles like torment and the shittier Spiderweb games.

 

[anvi]

Yeah. I kinda envy the people who can play stuff like that, because if I had lower standards, I would have 10000 extra games to play this year. But even being tactical and turn based isn't enough to make up for that kind of thing.

 

[Reinhardt]

make up for that kind of thing.

Lack of the dragons?

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Yeah. I kinda envy the people who can play stuff like that, because if I had lower standards, I would have 10000 extra games to play this year. But even being tactical and turn based isn't enough to make up for that kind of thing.

You wouldn't know; you didn't play it. The story was pretty much shit but the combat is very good and the encounter design is solid. Considering the dearth of good TB combat on a grid, it was some of the best in years. Your brain may be atrophied by the expectation of 30 seconds to climax.

 

[anvi]

Yeah but I played Aarklash Legacy, DoS, Blackguards, etc. which can all do good tactical combat without resorting to time wasting.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Yeah but I played Aarklash Legacy, DoS, Blackguards, etc. which can all do good tactical combat without resorting to time wasting.

Underrail then is not your cup of tea. I preferred the pacing of it to DoS.
And I considered Aarklash way inferior to single player campaign of Dawn of War 2 + expansion.

 

[anvi]

I rage quit DoS too because of the same reasons. It starts in a huge town with a billion NPC's and I was expected to talk to all of them and gather all their crappy quests and read all their terrible dialogue. It took me about 3 months to find the motivation load the game up again and do all those horrible chores. I completed the game eventually but that starting town nearly kept me away forever.

I will probably do the same thing with Underrail too, but I just need to exhaust all other games first. RPG standards are low.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

I rage quit DoS too because of the same reasons. It starts in a huge town with a billion NPC's and I was expected to talk to all of them and gather all their crappy quests and read all their terrible dialogue. It took me about 3 months to find the motivation load the game up again and do all those horrible chores. I completed the game eventually but that starting town nearly kept me away forever.

I will probably do the same thing with Underrail too, but I just need to exhaust all other games first. RPG standards are low.

k. So you have tactical wargame preference.
Consult this thread http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/squad-level-tactical-games.7389/ and report back.

 

[anvi]

Good list. I've played around half of all those. But there is a lot of junk on there. Also a lot of it suffers the same things I don't like, forcing weak story/dialogue down your throat, and lots of unnecessary walking. Also a lot of them are quite shallow. I can't complain too much about 80s/90s stuff, I used to love Space Hulk / Space Crusade as a kid, but nowadays stuff like that doesn't even come close to holding up. Also it doesn't help that they are all so niche they all have tiny budgets. I think that is what is so special about DoS, it has tactical party combat, yet it looks pretty and is slick, and a decent length, etc. There need to be some more big games like that and maybe tactical games could live on with a decent budget. DoS2 and Wasteland 3 could bring the whole strategy gaming thing to life if they sell well.

I think crappy games like Numenera and Pillars of Eternity harm the cause though.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Good list. I've played around half of all those. But there is a lot of junk on there. Also a lot of it suffers the same things I don't like, forcing weak story/dialogue down your throat, and lots of unnecessary walking. Also a lot of them are quite shallow. I can't complain too much about 80s/90s stuff, I used to love Space Hulk / Space Crusade as a kid, but nowadays stuff like that doesn't even come close to holding up. Also it doesn't help that they are all so niche they all have tiny budgets. I think that is what is so special about DoS, it has tactical party combat, yet it looks pretty and is slick, and a decent length, etc. There need to be some more big games like that and maybe tactical games could live on with a decent budget.

For there to be brilliant tactical games; there must be lesser shallow tactical games.
Do you have any idea how glad I am that there are now new tactical combat games that I can dismiss with a glance? Compared to say 5 years ago?

Besides I still think that that Underrail would make a good base for tactical combat game with 6-8 member squad: if only they could add crouching mechanics and bigger maps.

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Besides you said you liked other games as young one. That's natural.
And young 'uns have to start from somewhere.