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Tyranny Pre-Release Thread

Dieithrio

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Sometimes it's good to live in Potatoland.

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1. Game
2. Soundtrack
3. 112 pages artbook
~28 EURO / 30,5 USD



Can non-potatoland people buy it somewhere online?
 

Ezrite

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Someone at the Paradox Tyranny forum was asking if Kyros is female. I responded Kyros is evil incarnate, that makes the character female by default.

It took the mods five minutes to delete my post. Never change Sweden. :salute:

I bet she looks like a tumblr whale to, horribly ugly and got mouthy opinions-

There are also physical edition in the UK.

I live in the land of cucks, Ikea and Paradox and I haven't seen a retail version yet! Feels bad.
 

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Tyranny seems to be getting better physical editions than Pillars did, where only the poles got one worth its salt. Probably a result of being fully funded by Paradox this time.
 

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http://www.pcgamesn.com/tyranny/tyranny-evil-gameplay

Tyranny's take on evil isn't just nuanced, it's disturbing


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If you've ever had the unfortunate experience of working as a manager for a large company, you're already well-versed with Tyranny's version of evil. At a preview event last week, I had the opportunity to sit down and play through the first few hours of Obsidian Entertainment's ‘evil has won’ RPG. As the type of person who sometimes gets a kick out of being contrarian, I went into that demo with the purpose of poking holes in Tyranny's attempts to seduce me to the dark side. If Tyranny wanted me to be bad, I was going to do everything in my power to do just the opposite. I thought it would be funny, but instead it left me feeling depressed. It's not because Tyranny doesn't accommodate being good, but because I found myself too weak-willed to choose it.

You see, in Tyranny, evil isn't some otherworldly demon that only wants to cause suffering. Instead, it's the kind of evil manifested in bureaucracies, ignorance, and ‘the greater good’. It's the evil of getting to work one morning and finding out that a group of executives you've never met have decided it's now your job to fire several employees. But as an agent in an authoritarian empire, I'm not just handing out severance packages.

I'm handing out death sentences.

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Tyranny's story starts with a grim ultimatum. An army of separatists have congregated in a valley and need to be crushed before their rebellion spreads. The two armies that Kyros, the divine emperor of Tyranny, has sent to end the rebellion aren't getting the mission done. Instead, their radically different cultures have them squabbling like siblings, and it's my job to get them to cooperate and complete their objective. Making things worse is Kyros' passion for deadlines. As a godlike being of immeasurable power, he can issue magical ‘edicts’ that have devastating consequences if not fulfilled. In this case, his armies have eight days to settle their dispute and crush the rebellion or everyone—including me—will die. Now if that's not a good management tactic, I don't know what is.

As I arrive in the camp, I'm already dreading the decisions I know I'll need to make. With such a strict deadline, I'm torn over the best method to get the two factions to play nice. The Disfavored are an elite unit that values discipline and order, while the Scarlet Chorus is a rowdy warband of barbarians that thrive on chaos, but both are equally powerful. While I can simply side with one army and rebuke the other, both generals make it obvious that they'll make my life hell if I disrespect them. As if it's not bad enough that I have to settle their disputes, I also need to placate them.

Part of what makes these decisions tough is how incredibly well-realized Tyranny's world is. The writing and characterizations promise to be some of the finest that Obsidian Entertainment have ever done, and I immediately felt invested in the story. Strangely, I also found myself resenting Tyranny for that exact reason. You see, that investment also lets Tyranny manipulate me in ways that few RPGs ever have.

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An hour into the demo, I arrive in the Scarlet Chorus camp to offer my aid helping the army get started on our mission to crush the separatists. A captain by the name of Fifth-Eye tells me that their progress is stalled by a pesky band of rebels in the nearby mountains. Fortunately, a recently captured prisoner might have some information that will lead to the rebel's camp, allowing me to take them out and free up the Scarlet Chorus to move into the valley. And this is where I began to realize that being good in Tyranny isn't easy.

I find the prisoner strapped to a pole in the center of camp. Beaten and broken by her captors, she's immediately willing to spill her secrets in exchange for her life. But as I question her, I realize that she isn't telling the truth. Using one of Tyranny's dialogue skill checks, I'm able to call her bluff and reveal her lies. Her facade crumbles and she begins begging for her life, and, wanting to be a good person, I take pity on her.

But Fifth-Eye isn't moved by her pleas. To him, her attempt to deceive us is a crime punishable by death. I stop him, but realize then the predicament that Tyranny has put me in. If I override Fifth-Eye's authority in front of his soldiers, that would harm my relationship with the Scarlet Chorus and jeopardize our mission. Even worse, Fifth-Eye's aggressive nature has me worried he might be dumb enough to fight me. But if I standby and let him kill this prisoner, wouldn't I be complicit in this woman's death?

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I manage to convince Fifth-Eye that there's another option. The Scarlet Chorus has a reputation for absorbing the armies they defeat into their own ranks, and I urge him to let this woman decide her own fate by taking on a rite of initiation. For a moment, I feel proud that I managed to solve the problem without bloodshed. But then it's revealed that her initiation means savagely murdering her fellow prisoners with nothing but a rock. After all, she needs to prove she's loyal to her new masters.

It's here that Tyranny's treatment of morality resonates with me in a way that few games ever have. In most RPGs, good and evil are simple choices that have simple consequences. But Tyranny's choices don't fit neatly into my preconceived notions of right and wrong, and I'm left feeling conflicted and bitter. For a person who is supposed to have a great deal of respect and authority, I realize I have none at all.

Reading the grotesque lines of text describing a woman smashing her friends' skulls in with a rock while, all around me, Scarlet Chorus soldiers watch unflinchingly, I realize that I am a stranger in a strange land. I wanted to be good in Tyranny, to defy its expectations of me as the player, but one hour into the demo and I'm already responsible for a tragedy because I didn't have the guts to stand up for what I thought was right. I compromised for "the greater good." But I don't feel great, and I certainly don't feel good.

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Being good in Tyranny doesn't mean simply picking the blue coloured dialogue option. It means defying the cultural norms of a society you're invested in and jeopardizing lives and objectives. It means putting yourself at risk. My instinct to acquiesce to that pressure is what depresses me as the evening ends and I return home.

When our moral compass points to absolutes, we're forced to make decisions that can negatively impact not just our own lives but the lives of the people around us. But at what point does that pressure begin to bend the compass needle? Even though I can't wait to play more, Tyranny's take on evil troubles me because it mirrors reality alarmingly well. When you sit down to play a fantasy RPG, the last thing you expect is to be reminded of the issues plaguing the real world. In that sense, Tyranny might just end up being the most politically relevant game of this year. Not because it has an agenda to push but because it has a disturbing understanding of the concessions we're willing to make when standing up for what's right demands sacrifices. Like a beloved relative spouting racial slurs while we quietly avert our eyes and say nothing, doing the right thing in Tyranny is complicated.
 

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Since this game was announced there's been a constant chorus of people going "What will be evil in Tyranny? I DON'T SEE WHAT'S EVIL HERE". Half the people in that chorus seem to be looking for maximum rape and gore, and the other half are looking for some indescribably deep philosophical and personal take on the concept of evil, something akin to what they imagine The Nameless One's original sin must have been like. This game will probably satisfy neither, but what's funny is that if it did satisfy one half, it would inevitably end up alienating the other.
 
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Since this game was announced there's been a constant chorus of people going "What will be evil in Tyranny? I DON'T SEE WHAT'S EVIL HERE". Half the people in that chorus seem to be looking for maximum rape and gore, and the other half are looking for some indescribably deep philosophical and personal take on the concept of evil, something akin to what they imagine The Nameless One's original sin must have been like.
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Since this game was announced there's been a constant chorus of people going "What will be evil in Tyranny? I DON'T SEE WHAT'S EVIL HERE". Half the people in that chorus seem to be looking for maximum rape and gore, and the other half are looking for some indescribably deep philosophical and personal take on the concept of evil, something akin to what they imagine The Nameless One's original sin must have been like.
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Aye, if you're gonna reinforce your authority over hardened veterans an a bunch o psychos you're gonna have to get your hands dirty, can't make a cake wi out breakin some legs. Plus to put down a rebellion you're gonna need some shock tactics in fist that sits in velvet glove, rape, genocide, decimation, burnin alive, poetry recitals, you know sick shit.

Difficult thing for games is making sick jaded old fuckers like us care about somethin, uphill struggle.
 
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HansGruber

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Since this game was announced there's been a constant chorus of people going "What will be evil in Tyranny? I DON'T SEE WHAT'S EVIL HERE". Half the people in that chorus seem to be looking for maximum rape and gore, and the other half are looking for some indescribably deep philosophical and personal take on the concept of evil, something akin to what they imagine The Nameless One's original sin must have been like. This game will probably satisfy neither, but what's funny is that if it did satisfy one half, it would inevitably end up alienating the other.

Well, technically the gore option would alienate me, because it would make the game like every other game (of thrones). Quite frankly, if i am up for gory stuff i can play gears of war on a console or something. I don't need the deep philosophical journey either, a balanced approach would actually suit the game the most. There is different variants and shades of evil, violence can be one of them. But there are other forms of evil too. I am skeptical if tyranny can achieve what i think would be good, so i am skeptical, but i really look forward to see them try and so paradox and obsidian have made money out of me.
 

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Seems to be edgy evil and not organised, lawful evil. Where you follow laws and shit but still do crude shit to criminals and stuff. But its "le im so evil, huehue, poke the eye out on our torture victim and rape their cats" kinda of evil?
 

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Sometimes it's good to live in Potatoland.

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1. Game
2. Soundtrack
3. 112 pages artbook
~28 EURO / 30,5 USD



Can non-potatoland people buy it somewhere online?

Here for example: http://www.3kropki.pl/p/tyranny-limitowana-edycja-specjalna-pl-pc.html

You have to check shipping cost to your country here: http://www.3kropki.pl/help/pomoc.php#koszt

Estimated time of delivery- up to 2 weeks. :M

WTF?! I want that. Are those guys you linked trustworthy? Because I'm seriously considering donating some Potatoes to Potato economy.


I've ordered here once a mp3 player and shop service was good. I only had a problem with the delivery company UPS (courier delivered package to wrong adress, but in a week he took it back and brought it to me). On ceneo.pl (polish opinion portal) it have ~4,5/5 stars.

Here (<-click) you can check out other stores that are selling the game.
 
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Useful info.

It is possible to change the language to english isn't it? Asking because store page only mentions polish text.

Ooh, new stuff:

What is the purpose of a base of operations in a game such as Tyranny? It is not a dungeon crawler or a 'climb any mountain you see'-simulator where one would need to store loot or supplies for posterity. Hopefully the feature is not there for companion storage as a place for them to hang around because they can't return to whatever they were doing before having met the protagonist.
 

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