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What's the most hardcore RPG you've completed
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Daggerfall. I was young and had no idea what is going on. Took me a month just to understand the controls/concept. Some more months later after countless errors, I finished it, probably randomly as I rarely had a real sense of direction in that chaotic huge world.
Also one of my first first-person games too, which didnt help a lot
Also one of my first first-person games too, which didnt help a lot
Wizardry IV: The Return of Werdna. Only got to the Good ending without a walkthrough, the easiest of the possible three (four?), but it was hard enough. I only stumbled through some puzzles by random chance (including getting out of the very first room 
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Old One
Arcane
Enchanter is quite easy except for one slightly hard puzzle. Still, it's really fun, and it introduced the classic Infocom magic system (memorize FROTZ;cast FROTZ) which is still one of my favorites. I fire up Enchanter every now and then out of nostalgia and I still find it enjoyable.
Sorcerer is also fairly easy, which may be why the fans wanted a hard game for the last in the trilogy. The nice thing about Sorcerer is that a lot of it takes place in the G.U.E., which is always exciting. It also adds magic potions as loot.
Spellbreaker is super hard. I would have been 13 when it came out, and spent hours just trying to figure out what the hell was going on. Eventually I gave up, which was rare for 13-year-old me. I finished it several years later, though I never could have done so without consulting the Invisi-clues hint book.
EDIT: I actually got the magic system a bit wrong. Here's how it works. FROTZ is the light spell in the game. Once you have a spell in your spell book, you memorize it (memorize FROTZ) then you use it as a verb. Typing "FROTZ me" makes you glow. Or you can FROTZ brass lantern, or FROTZ bread, or whatever.
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Correct_Carlo
Arcane
I've beaten all the Spiderweb games on torment (not the older exiles, though). Started a solo torment run of Avernum 6 too. Lost interest halfway through, but I should try to complete it (or not, it's very doable, but kind of tedious).
Wizardry 7: I spent 6 months playing it almost daily on 2-3 hour sessions before going to bed and it was very challenging without internet or guides of where to go and managing a very limited inventory with "quest" items which were not labeled as such (I remember the munk blood that was required on the top of the dane tower or the Uumpani bomb) so you had to backtrack and try out all sorts of stuff and since there was no quest tracker or notes if you played and then stopped for a couple of weeks you could forget this or that...plus honestly it was a bit grindy
Still one of my all time favorites
Still one of my all time favorites
My mum is a Really Pretty Girl
ToME is nice, but I'm not really sold on the chainsaw orcs expansion. Feels like they rolled the difficulty waaaaay down, which is the wrong way to go. People most likely to pick up the DLC are the ones who can already complete vanilla in their sleep.
Lhynn
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I wasnt really interested in the DLC, but its kinda disappointing to hear they made the game easier, ToME is at its best wihen its ruthless.
baturinsky
Arcane
Chainsaw DLC is a separate campaign. I don't think you can even use steam classes in vanilla campaign.
Severian Silk
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JA2 1.13 is prolly the most hardcore RPG I've played. I haven't played many RPGs older than that, unless you count JRPGs.
I remember going back and in a fit finishing Zork. Didn't do it with a walkthrough, but never finished it because that thief would eventually kill me. Remember on a 300 baud bbs/message board (I shit you not) reading that you could weigh him down.
oldmanpaco
Master of Siestas
I seem to recall fighting him with the knife rather than the sword or axe made it easier. Also you had to make sure he stole the clockwork egg because he was the only one who could open it.
Damn now I want to play zork again.
That would be Wishbringer and Plundered Hearts, yes?
If you liked Wishbringer then you must try Trinity, my personal Infocom fave, written by Brian Moriarty who went on to do Loom for LucasArts. Very close second would be Stationfall by Steve 'A Mind Forever Voyaging' Meretsky. I was much more a fan of Sci-fi than fantasy at the time. Also Starcross, apart from the ending.
oldmanpaco
Master of Siestas
Yeah it was Whishbringer. I was looking back on the infocom games and I don't think Plundered Hearts was the pirate game I was thinking about. It came out after I had moved on from text games. By 1985 games like Ultima 3/4 and KQ2 had my attention and I really didn't look back. (except for Beyond Zork).
I remember looking at Trinity in the game store but never buying it. 12 year old Paco had limited resources and like I said by 1985/86 I was buying games with actual graphics.
Also for some reason I thought I had the Infocom Collection at GOG but its only the Zork games. Where do you get all of them these days?
Might have been Shogun - at least you start out in a ship, although you're not technically a pirate.
Since I bought the originals and the collections a couple of times I feel free to grab them from abandonware sites. I think The Digital Antiquarian may have some, but I'm not sure if they're available from anywhere legitimate at the moment.
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