Fallout 2 - It's meant to be good?

[laclongquan]

West of New Reno they are rare as henteeth. East of New Reno, from around Gecko down to Broken Hills and Vault 13 they appear~

 

[T. Reich]

Ghouls in FO2 are mostly concentrated around Gecko, AFAIR, and they are mostly neutral/friendly.
Super mutants are concentrated around Broken Hills (friendly) and around the abandoned military base (Mariposa from FO1) (hostile).

 

[Lord Azlan]

So, 15+ years on I finally finish Fallout 2.

Got to thank the Codex for ranking it so high in the top 50 list - otherwise I might not have gone back and finished it.

On topic - yeah - I think it is one of the best RPG of all time. I would rank it with my other favorites such as Morrowind and Ultima Underworld. I think I had a little mini orgasmic experience at the end when the narrator explains how your choices changed the landscape.

I was playing the Steam version patched 1.02d.

Really liked Fred. That guy cost me some time as I lent him some dosh when I shouldn't have. Really made me happy though to see him walking around in his Tuxedo *chuckle*

San Francisco was a bit disappointing and I began to get fed up talking to people with nothing to say and looking through cupboards and shelves that looked full with zilch in them.

I thought I saved the talking Deathclaws in Vault 13 so was surprised they all died. The Pipboy said i was on good relations with NCR but none of them would talk to me. I tried to do a win-win deal with Vault City and Gecko so was surprised that the narrator said VC could not expand due to energy requirements but Gecko did well in the end.

Some stupid-ness in the game. Explosives and Dynamite. You can (nearly) go through the whole game without using any until you get to the last bloody location and they are required. That is crap. I spoke to the Doctor Curling on the Oil Rig about DNA and killing everyone in the world so he agreed to release toxin into place killing most *normal* people, including the Chief Engineer. Had to do a reload and lost a bunch of time.

Stupidly, convincing the Chief Engineer was ridiculously easy - don't know what the crap that was about. There was an elite super Enclave guy listening into the conversation and he didn't blink. In fact the whole base is full of them.

The tanker had a weapons shop that only sold a crowbar!

Skills? Bah - humbug! Throwing, Sneaking, Doctor, First Aid, Barter - blah Blah BLAH

Music - I really liked it. 87 hours played.

Biggest compliment I can pay? It nearly changed me from a blobber to story guy - nearly

 

[valcik]

I spoke to the Doctor Curling on the Oil Rig about DNA and killing everyone in the world so he agreed to release toxin into place killing most *normal* people, including the Chief Engineer. Had to do a reload and lost a bunch of time.

That's how I roll actually. There's a few C4/dynamite sticks in the armory, unlocked and unprotected, just grab it and blow that shit up after those techs are killed by toxins.

The tanker had a weapons shop that only sold a crowbar!

Sounds like a bug to me. Try killap's RP or unofficial patch next time, playing through F2 for a couple times with different builds is a mandatory routine anyway!

 

[Makabb]

I think it is one of the best RPG of all time

It is.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I thought I saved the talking Deathclaws in Vault 13 so was surprised they all died.

That's a bug iirc, the game doesn't check if you helped them and defaults to "didn't help".

Edit: no, apparently uncle Franky always kills them. The bugged ending slide is something else - the positive ending can't happen so you can only avoid the bad one[url].[/url]

 

[Diablo]

Hey guys Diablo here.

Sorry i abandoned my quasi LP of Fallout 2. I had to go day laboring for a month. It was horrible, i feel like

Spoiler

shit

Unfortunately, it also killed my urge to play Fallout. I startt up the game and nothing. I just cant do it.

Hopefully it will come back.

 

[C.H.A.R.L.I.E]

If you want to play Fallout 1 and 2 today i suggest that your also try the online multiplayer version of those games:

(Gang warfare: The Hawks fighting the Rogues and the Crazy88 for valuable enclave supplies in San Fransisco. FOnline2 server)

http://fonline2.com/

http://www.fonline-reloaded.net/

http://fonline-aop.net/site/index.php

JOIN US!

 

[subotaiy]

Which of the Fallout multiplayer mods do you recommend btw? I know there's another thread for Ashes of Phoenix or something.

 

[C.H.A.R.L.I.E]

Hi. For a new player i would recomend FOnline Reloaded, because it's easier to get in to. The PvE element i FOnline2 is also heavily mixed with the PvP, so that it's much harder for a new player to start up.

What i would really recomend for everyone who are interested in giving it a try is to wait until one of the servers "wipe" and then give it a go.

A wipe is when the server resets, so that everyone has to start out from scratch with level 1 characters and primitive tools. At this point it is much easier to get into the game for a new player.

 

[Snufkin]

I remember when i got Fo2 and dusted it after half hour of playing because starting area turned me off so badly. Then when i came back and forced myself to pass first village i got into Klamath and also hated it. Golden geckos in toxic cave are OP for low lvl char which was very frustrating. Again dusted game. But back later on and when you get to Den it really picks up. This is one of rare rpgs that gets better as you progres. It feels like every new city is better then previous and have unique atmoshpere.

 

[naossano]

For newcomer, i would recommand Ashes Of Phoenix, for serveral reasons. One of the main reasons is that you are already part of a faction as soon as you login, while, in other servers, you will spend quite some time solo, being raped by all gangs.

 

[C.H.A.R.L.I.E]

For newcomer, i would recommand Ashes Of Phoenix, for serveral reasons. One of the main reasons is that you are already part of a faction as soon as you login, while, in other servers, you will spend quite some time solo, being raped by all gangs.

Wasteland is harsh. The sooner they learn that, the better. About AOP, i agree, just dont pick Family or Brahmin Boys. However, FO2 and FO:R both use the combined worldmaps of Fonline 1 and 2, with all cities and locations. Since this thread is about those games, i didnt mention AOP.

And given the server population on AoP these days, i still recommend FOnline Reloaded ...

 

[Surf Solar]

Since most of the people reporting in here are amazed at how much reactivity there is in FO2 and how the story unfolds, I highly doubt they will enjoy a multiplayer mod which mainly revolves around huge clusterfuck battles in real time combat

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Wasteland is harsh. The sooner they learn that, the better. About AOP, i agree, just dont pick Family or Brahmin Boys. However, FO2 and FO:R both use the combined worldmaps of Fonline 1 and 2, with all cities and locations. Since this thread is about those games, i didnt mention AOP.

And given the server population on AoP these days, i still recommend FOnline Reloaded ...

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I would wait to join AoP until the wipe, tho.

 

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[toro]

Off topic: Today there was one guy streaming Fallout 1 on twitch.tv. He had 9000 online viewers and 24.000.000 total views. I would say that this is impressive for a 18 years old game.

Of course the number is related to the Fallout 4 announcement but still ... 9k non retarded viewers.

 

[SCO]

Not to scale.

 

[pippin]

Off topic: Today there was one guy streaming Fallout 1 on twitch.tv. He had 9000 online viewers and 24.000.000 total views. I would say that this is impressive for a 18 years old game.

Of course the number is related to the Fallout 4 announcement but still ... 9k non retarded viewers.

Kids these days think of older FOs like they think of SS2: It's supposed to be cool, but they won't bother with those, because they have shiny new toys now.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

>non retarded viewers

Debatable. For all I know the chat was filled with OMG WTF IS THIS LOL LAME

 

[toro]

>non retarded viewers

Debatable. For all I know the chat was filled with OMG WTF IS THIS LOL LAME

I don't understand russian

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

I'm replaying Fallout 2, I hadn't in quite some time. It's really a good game with so many things to try, and dat music... I'm really having a good time. My only beef so far is with enemies running low on health and retreating in random directions. When they move to an exit zone or get off screen altogether, it's really fucking annoying.

 

[T. Reich]

Well, what do you expect? For them to stand stil lso you could conveniently harvest them for exp and loot?

No-one really wants to die, and enemies are no exception.

People are complaining about the weirdest things sometimes.

 

[Excidium II]

Well, what do you expect? For them to stand stil lso you could conveniently harvest them for exp and loot?

No-one really wants to die, and enemies are no exception.

People are complaining about the weirdest things sometimes.

Don't be stupid, the problem is them running off map edges

 

[T. Reich]

Well, what do you expect? For them to stand stil lso you could conveniently harvest them for exp and loot?

No-one really wants to die, and enemies are no exception.

People are complaining about the weirdest things sometimes.

Don't be stupid, the problem is them running off map edges

YOU don't be stupid.

The game allows the player to do/abuse precisely the same thing: run towards the exit grid - combat is over as you exit the location. Enemies moving offscreen to escape puursuit is basically hte same thing.