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The Saga of Firedorn Lightbringer: Obsidian caves in to the SJWs

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I have to say that it's funny how a non-issue that nobody gives a fuck about gets to such a buttsore.

Oh wow, so Obsidian made changes to one of the backer texts because someone found it offensive! Interesting, but hardly unexpected. What's more surprising is that it made it into the game to begin with, but that's just my opinion. Do you see a thread on this surviving very long? Do you see a lot of people being interested? I sure as fuck don't. At the same time, I don't see why it shouldn't be in a thread on PoE. Sure, it's not really a topic worthy of debate, but it's just about as valid as the thread with "fanfic" posts. I mean, that Never Again thread should probably go to Library by all accounts, if we apply the same heavy hand to every offtopic-ish item.

Just let it be, it'll die off on its own, precisely because of the zero value that it provides.
Far be it for me to question our glorious thought-leaders on what is worth (we are allowed) debating or how many people might be "interested" in it, but if it was such a non-issue it shouldn't have been a problem letting it live in the first place, either in the Patch thread where people were discussing the Patch changes and Retardoing it all started or in a separate thread dedicated to said issue.

As someone said, on the Obsidian forums there were several dozen page threads dedicated to this:
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/73243-memorials-problem/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/74461-controversial-limerick-discussion/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75387-controversial-limerick-discussion-2/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75219-limerick-edit-thread/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75328-limerick-edit-thread-2/
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75505-twitter-outrage-over-the-spoiler-quest/

It also blew up into several hundred comments threads on the respective Leddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteter...ks_like_obsidian_decided_to_remove_firedorns/
http://www.reddit.com/r/projecteter...dian_didnt_change_firedorns_poem_they_werent/

And was at one point dominating all front page discussions on the Steam forums to the point that people were making singular threads where they can "talk about the game itself"
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It also made it into a separate 18 page thread regarding the Patch itself, where the CEO of said company personally offered an "explanation": http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75269-update-93-patch-103-important-community-fixes/
Backer Content

It's come to our attention that a piece of backer-created content has made it into Pillars of Eternity that was not vetted. Once it was brought to our attention, it followed the same vetting process as all of our other content. Prior to release, we worked with many of our backers to iterate on content they asked to be put into the game that didn't strike the right tone.

In the case of this specific content, we checked with the backer who wrote it and asked them about changing it. We respect our backers greatly, and felt it was our duty to include them in the process. They gave us new content which we have used to replace what is in the game. To be clear, we followed the process we would have followed had this content been vetted prior to the release of the product.

We appreciate the faith you have all given us into making Pillars of Eternity the great game that it has become, and we appreciate the strength of conviction all of you bring to every conversation we have together.

Sincerely,

Feargus Urquhart, CEO
Obsidian Entertainment, Inc.

It also made it to news posts on several highly reputable news sites like The Mary Sue or PCGamer (which refers to the Mary Sue) :lol::

GamePolitics - Community questions Obsidian over 'Pillars of Eternity' in-game trans joke: https://archive.today/S6Qec
https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/pillars-of-transphobia
The Mary Sue - [UPDATED] Transphobic Joke in Obsidian’s Pillars of Eternity Sparks Legitimate Concern; Jerks Whine Over Censorship: https://archive.today/omLkX
The Mary Sue - Obsidian Entertainment Removes Transmisogynistic Joke From Pillars of Eternity at Gamers’ Urging: https://archive.today/fCv5u
PCGamer - Pillars of Eternity update changes offensive content: https://archive.today/sPncK
Reaxxion - Obsidian Caves To SJW Demands By Removing “Transphobic” Joke From Pillars Of Eternity: https://archive.today/XKsB3
http://techraptor.net/content/pillars-eternity-obsidians-lack-courage

Leading up to an "explaining of joke" from said Backer himself: http://www.orderoflaibach.com/blog/screw-you-firedorn-lightbringer

Obviously this seems to have been somewhat of an issue for many people, especially those that don't like enforced censorship or developers caving in to this kind of pressure and demands, to put it mildly.

Surely, at some point it can be decided something like this is "newsworthy" or "worth talking about" in the respective section, all of your personal opinions and misgivings left aside?
 

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Posting in legendary thread.

The nice thing is that this will still be true after it's merged into the GG thread
thread ain't gonna be legendary. the whole point was to have the freedom to talk about shit in plain sight and not get overmoded. since the news is what 2 days old? i believe theres not enough fuel left to keep this going. it's old news by now and since our freedom is no longer being suppressed we can get right back to fapping...
 

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Why do game developers respond to SJWs? By now it should be clear that nothing good can come of it.

It's like they want it to blow up in their faces

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Message for future readers: The surrounding posts originally belonged to the thread "The Saga of Firedorn Lightbringer: Obsidian caves in to the SJWs". This is why it will sound confusing as shit when you read it in a GD megathread.
 
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If women with penis is normal or two guys loving each other are normal too, so i guess soon all heterosexual and really normal [even , only from evolution perspective] people will be banned from earth and send to the moon or something?
SJW is a crap becouse it's not normal to don't have any self distance and can't laugh from ourselves. It only shows how sick that kind of people are and WHO organization should stay at their line some time ago.
Obsidian lose very much in my eyes and it became another censorship media producer only for right thinking. You suck Obsidian, a BIG TIME. Better focus on bugs in future games than on some deviants.
 
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It's okay when Jewfinitron makes a thread about this, but when Phage did, it got promptly merged into the sjw shitposting general. #KillAllMods
there were several attempts to make this kind of thread, all deflected until management decided to tell Jaesun to fuck off and ended the censorship. since i myself tried this 2 times, I'm also pissed off Infinitron had to come along and claim this thread as his own but what am i gonna do? just glad Jaesun was put in his place since i don't care much for censorship based on mood.
 

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Would you really risk a SJW shitstorm over a shitty limerick?

Yes! Considering that this cave in allowed other shitstorms over twitter... You aleady have "OMG no one thinks of the children?" 'Cause apparently you are proposed to kill one in a quest, and other fuckers going after the revised lyrics because they "make fun of the original victim". Oh, and as you can imagine the thing has already reached other websites, one day even sites like nexus will cave in I'm p.sure.
They had to totally ignore the thing, by now probably there would be nothing to speak of.
Google this shit, it's happening. That's why you do not concede to these people, they have no interest in winning an argument, FACTS ARE OPPRESSIVE ONLY THE VICTIM POV MATTERS!
Their cause is a putrid and flaccid dream, they just want others to feel as bad as they feel and they won't stop as long as you're happier than they are.


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The irony of all this is that the removal actually brought more awareness to the original text than it would have ever gotten otherwise. To further compound the irony, action that was allegedly supposed to prevent hate has instead generated more hate, because (surprise!) people hate it when other people try to impose their rules on them. The human race needs a balance pass, the smart are too few and the retards are just too retarded...
 

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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
So have they made a mod to add it back next to the new one :D?
Apparently yes, though people are apparently trying to get it removed by reporting it for "transphobia": http://www.nexusmods.com/pillarsofeternity/mods/28/

Fortunately, the operators of Nexus so far seem to be showing a higher degree of spine than Obsidian or our own Codex Mods:
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:incline: :incline::incline: The action of people like him make this CIA fabricated evil at bay. Now if Absurdian will apologize for being such Suka, make Suka Sawyer to fellate MCA and write all companions next time and add TB mod Kommissar will consider stooping his boycott of their goods.
 

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