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Baltika9

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...this will be awesome. I'm loving this guy already.
 

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“There appears to be a slight misunderstanding here,” laughs Zhang Jue. “My last disciple lasted six months and three days, setting a new record.”
There appears to be a slight misunderstanding here, mosquitoes live for a maximum of three months, that means his apprentices have the lifespan of two mosquitoes.
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And I thought we agreed to shelve the "luck" argument.
it exceeds 2 mosquitoes by 3 days so lets say 3.
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Which part of Jing's body does Zhang perform his experimental procedure on?
6 would be funnier.


Btw 22 people vote here that is something.

Edit. Btw where did that escape tech vanished? Fused with wolf step? It was Golden Snake Shedding Skin.
 
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Grimgravy

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Looks like it. Some other changes to the character sheet too. Big increase in unarmed among them.
 

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And a Neigong skill. Yep. There are changes already, from training with the madman. Neigong was earlier limited to 1, now it's 4. So Jing's better at controlling it now, but he isn't anywhere near his peak I suspect.
 

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Maniac Training

The first thing you were taught under Zhang Jue’s tutelage was how to accept your chaotic inner strength. You spent seven days and seven nights writhing in pain in the jungle as Zhang Jue systematically broke down your meridians, the channels by which a person’s qi travels.

“Vessels are useless,” he said. “All you need to do is to unshackle your qi from the narrow channels that constrain it. Your qi has transcended the need for a path. The harmony of the Way is heresy to your being. Let your strength flow freely; embrace the discord and chaos, and you will become more powerful than you can ever imagine.”

Then, he added, dispassionately, “If you survive this.”

You did, somehow. In the blinding pain you somehow found in yourself the will to cling on to life. By the end of it, however, streaks of white had appeared in your hair, far before your time. You had always looked slightly older than your age, but now, at merely fifteen, you could pass for a man of twenty. The agony may have shortened your lifespan, though you do not know for sure. Without meridians it meant that any injuries you suffer to your internal system can no longer be healed by the qi of others. You would have to cope on your own.

However, you gained power out of it. For the first time in your life, you were now able to use your inner strength. The Southern Maniac named it Yuanshi Hundun (原始混沌, Primordial Chaos). The orderly world was born after yin and yang came into perfect balance and harmony; before that there was nothing but dark and undifferentiated chaos. Befitting its name, the Yuanshi Hundun coursing through your body is unpredictable and barely controllable even at the best of times. When channeled, however, it gives you a burst of strength and speed at the expense of making your strikes and movements erratic. Due to its nature, it is impossible for you to cultivate your neigong via calm meditation and docile practice.

Master Zhang praised you for surviving; that lasted for all of two seconds before he set the tigers on you.

***

Training on Yinhu Island is harsh and deadly. You often find human bones during your training; no doubt scattered remains of your master’s former apprentices. The first part of your training was spent in the jungle that you shared with countless deadly beasts. You approached this obstacle mainly via:

A. Trapping. By learning to identifying the lay of the land and the tracks of the animals, you placed traps with which you could capture or kill the beasts. To do this you needed a keen eye and a mind for constructing and placing traps. (PER+1, INT+1, Traps+2)

B. Stalking. You turned the jungle into your own playground, hunting the animals that hunted you without their knowledge. Your senses became keener, and your movements quicker. (PER+1, AGI+1, Sneak+2)

C. Head-on assault. You contested the beasts’ territory in a show of strength. You beat them down in a direct fight, though you only managed it after downing copious amounts of alcohol. (STR+1, END+1, Drinking+2)

D. Befriending. In a stroke of rare good fortune, you somehow managed to befriend the animals. Your master was slightly amused at your approach, and proceeded to kill all of your animal friends. You were inspired to compose a great poem to lament their passing. (CHA+1, LUC+1, Artistic Skill+2)

***

After your ordeal in the jungle, during which you developed a combined qinggong skill out of your fundamental knowledge, your martial arts training began in earnest – your regimen was strict and brutal, with no time to even sleep. You were kept awake and functional by ingestion of raw snake and bear gall bladders that Zhang ripped out. At times you wondered why the island was not yet depopulated, and then your skull was cracked open because you were not paying attention while sparring with your master.

The Southern Maniac had plenty of techniques, and all of them were ones designed to kill. He was less of a swordsman, preferring to relish in flesh-to-flesh contact, though it did not mean he was not handy with a sword. Your training focused on your unarmed and sword skills, the ones you were already proficient in. The first technique he taught you were the Shouwang Claws, (獸王狂爪, Mad Claws of the Beast King), his signature technique. With it, Master Zhang could rend flesh from bones, dig out a man’s heart, or tear off a limb. You do not aspire to that much, but even in your inexperienced hands the technique is lethal. Besides that, you were also taught another technique:

A. Fanfeng Feixue Sword (反風飛血劍, Counter-Wind Flying Blood Sword). Developed by Zhang Jue as an unorthodox variant of the Huashan Sect’s renowned swift sword technique, it is meant to counter their rapid slashes with even wilder, more furious and brutal attacks of your own that would spill their blood across the arena. It has never been tested against Huashan in actual combat.

B. Chuzhan Fist (除斬拳, Dividing Sundering Fist). Developed by Zhang Jue as a counter to the Taiji Fist of the Wudang Sect. Zhang believes that it is possible to disrupt the gentle negation stance of Taiji, breaking their harmony by applying more force, faster than they can handle, and thus this technique focuses on ruthless, straightforward attacks that attempt to overwhelm the enemy with sheer power and speed. It has never been tested against Wudang in actual combat.

C. Wuni Fist (五逆拳,Five Deadly Sins Fist). Developed by Zhang Jue as an answer to the famed Luohan Fist of Shaolin Temple. In response to the straightforward, direct attacks of the Arhat, the Deadly Sins movements focuses on attacking the weak points in such a straightforward technique by utilizing a variety of clutches, grabs and throws in addition to quick, jabbing strikes. It has never been tested against Shaolin in actual combat.
 
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I've only missed a day or two and we are already this psycho's apprentice? And I see Stockholm syndrome is already in full force.

Oh fine. Voting DA. Maybe having a little less shitty luck will do us some good, and we already got an unarmed technique in this update.

Edit: Actuality make that DA > BA > AA. I don't like C.
 
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I can already tell that for the skill boosts, C is going to be quite popular. Another point in STR and the neigong would allow us to max out strength for brief periods of time. However, I really think that we ought to mitigate our terrible luck at least somewhat. I'm a bit loathe to get another CHA point after we had already invested in one earlier, but I think that the hilarious description makes up for that; I can just imagine a displeased Zhang murdering all of our new animal friends, just as we had been enjoying an extremely rare occurrence of good luck. Oh well, I suppose CHA 8 will allow us to seduce lots of impressionable young nuns.

Also, with that much charisma, we'd be the perfect white-haired bishounen:

You did, somehow. In the blinding pain you somehow found in yourself the will to cling on to life. By the end of it, however, streaks of white had appeared in your hair, far before your time.

:desu:

As for the technique, well, in the end, we're going to have to fight all sorts of martial artists, but since we're developing our own sword style and we had lost our kicking technique earlier, I'd rather go for an unarmed one. I know we just got one, but this would be Zhang's specialty, so I'd go with another unarmed technique. Overwhelming the enemy with power and speed sounds right up Jing's alley, and it'll counter the Wudang style (which our nature is inherently in opposition to), so I think that's the appropriate choice here.

BB
 
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Wondering if technique B (second B) also seems to match our primordial chaos ability, as its less finesse based then A. Also, the Southern Maniac is better with unarmed than sword its best to go with his strengths?

While the luck point looks interesting, its already low and 2 will still be low, wondering if we should take the bigger boost to already higher skills, specialise instead of aiming for a broad base, for example we could have strength 9 which would match most in the land.

While our low luck has lead to some interesting situations, its nothing we haven't gotten through so far, and shouldn't be seen as the game ender some may be seeing, as a matter of fact, a luckless journey could be seen as a boon as we survive our trials and be stronger and wiser for it.
 

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First choice A > D
We wish to become self taught? Skills what help us are Int, Per and artistic skills. We get both stats in A and traps for small bonus the weakest part of it. B is ok to as its gives us Per, let us get 10 agi with used wolf step and neigong and increase our sneak rank to 3 with possible bonus from wolf step to rank 5. C is waste in my opinion it lets us get to 10 str with neigong, gives us endurance to 6 but looking that our neigong is caped at 4 even if we have 5 points looks like it wont increase neigong and drinking... D in my opinion is very interesting gives us artistic knowledge helping us decipher poem techs, increase charisma helping our most developed skill and somewhat decrease amount of fate trolling. Would love to see that poem btw.

Last C > A
I believe that each tech here is good still. We have ultimate tech of Beggars in long term and Mad claw rank 4 so we have direct approach covered making B bit less usefull but with C we should be able to use those throws non lethal with could come in handy. A switching from agile tech to bruta can be good as we saw in our duel in Songfeng.
 

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Wondering if technique B (second B) also seems to match our primordial chaos ability, as its less finesse based then A. Also, the Southern Maniac is better with unarmed than sword its best to go with his strengths?

While the luck point looks interesting, its already low and 2 will still be low, wondering if we should take the bigger boost to already higher skills, specialise instead of aiming for a broad base, for example we could have strength 9 which would match most in the land.

While our low luck has lead to some interesting situations, its nothing we haven't gotten through so far, and shouldn't be seen as the game ender some may be seeing, as a matter of fact, a luckless journey could be seen as a boon as we survive our trials and be stronger and wiser for it.

fake edit: the endurance boost from C could also be useful as our healing options are now limited due to the lack of meridians.
 

Esquilax

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Great point, kazgar.

Without meridians it meant that any injuries you suffer to your internal system can no longer be healed by the qi of others. You would have to cope on your own.

treave, what would coping with things on our own entail? If the qi of others can't heal us, what options do we have?
 

treave

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Hair turning white with grief or pain is a traditional genre cliche predating animu. :rpgcodex:

E.g. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_with_White_Hair

Edit: Your healing will be slower than other pugilists. This applies to internal injuries mainly, not superficial ones. In this context internal injuries refers to the sort that disrupt your qi and weaken you. You'll have to let things recover of their own accord.
 

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I think I'll go CB, bros. We won't have many chances to raise our strength given how absurdly high it is already (I think this is the first opportunity we've had to boost it) so we should try to max it if possible. We were tied at one of the four strongest characters to start out with, we may as well carry on with that road instead of ditching it. The endurance helps too, we need to boost that at some point.

It seems like this guy is the opposite of what Wudang stands for, and we sill probably need to challenge them at some point. Given that our master additionally is better with the unarmed combat, I think this is the best way to go.
 

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D has the the cool factor here. Luck is just too abstract for me to want to improve it. I'd like to improve perception and endurance. Too bad they're not paired. This is likely our second and final free stat boost, so this is an important decision. Since we'll be developing our own techniques, the Maniac's seem too brutal, A is our best option for that.

As for the technique choice, A and B sound too brutal. We need to maintain as much difference between us and the Maniac's Hulk SMASH mentality as possible. That means C.

AC > BC > DC
 
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